Collective Trauma

Connected across Generations

Interview Sebastian Benkhofer, Johannes Wiek with Thomas Hübl

Thomas Hübl is certain that many of the unaddressed challenges of our time can only be solved when we – as individuals and societies – understand and become aware of the impact and effects of collective trauma. We wanted to learn more about that…

WITTEN LAB: How did you come to deal with trauma as a social phenomenon?

Thomas Hübl: It started with my view of life and society in the two countries I live in – Germany and Israel. While I lived with my wife in Berlin, I was still struck by the consequences of collective traumatization caused by the Second World War, which have not been dealt with by the grandparents’ and parents’ generations to this day and continue to have a subconscious effect. In the process, it became increasingly clear to me very early on that trauma is not just something individual, but something collective that runs through the entire lives of people as well as through the entire culture and that has a social-shaping effect across generations. The history of these people is not the past, but their history of trauma has been molded into structures of consciousness that are now lived.

„Trauma floods our culture and seeps into the culture that influences us. It’s like the permafrost of our social fabric.“

When we had to return to Israel, the relevance of these connections became even clearer to me. My wife is a professor of art and very prominent in Israel. Her brother was kidnapped by Hamas and was missing for three months. The whole country was looking for him before he was found dead. And that is just one of countless examples of collective traumatization. For Israel’s history, with all its wars, is also a history of collective trauma. And in its aftermath, there are strong radicalization movements that, because of their traumatization, don’t want peace to happen at all. That’s what made my wife and me activists for peace. And that’s why we founded the Pocket Project, whose goal is to establish a nationwide trauma awareness and information campaign in Israel. In politics, education, medicine, the army – so that the unconsciousness of collective trauma is transformed into a collective competence. Because if you know a few things about how trauma works, that alone can help people.

So what is collective trauma?

Most people are used to talking about trauma when something bad happens to us or other people. Be it an experience of war, abuse, a car accident…. So an experience of total overwhelm. But actually, trauma is just what remains after the overwhelm. People are able to split off this experience of being overwhelmed from their consciousness and thereby immobilize it – freeze it, so to speak. But that does not mean that this damage, this injury, is thereby gone. What remains continues to have an effect on the individual level as well as on the collective level. Like unhealed wounds that chronically affect our emotions, our minds, and our bodies, even when we don’t feel them or suppress their pain. And we are not only affected by trauma we have experienced ourselves, but as humans we are born into collective trauma. Trauma floods our culture and seeps into the culture that influences us. It’s like the permafrost of our social fabric.

How can we imagine the effects of collective trauma?

Trauma has the property of immobilizing and rendering imperceptible the pain and fear that remain from terrible experiences in everyday life. This is as true on the individual level as it is on the collective. The real pain in the collective is always where it is silent. The real traumatization no longer has a language. It can’t call for help either. It is totally frozen. But this immobilization has a high price. I always compare it to a freezer where we freeze things. We don’t think about the freezer while we’re doing something else. But it’s constantly consuming energy that we have to pay for. And all too often, we pay for that energy on credit. And when things get tight for us and we run into problems in life, at some point we can no longer afford this energy consumption on credit. And then the following generations have to continue paying the loans. In Germany, there are very few generations between the young people and the enormous catastrophe of World War II. And they are still paying off the loans. But we are just getting into the situation as a society that the things that we have somehow kept cold and quiet are coming to the surface in more and more places. And we’re getting into a tremendous amount of stress because we’re just not getting the social and global problems that are resulting from that, that everybody knows we need to solve, solved. Whether it’s social inequality, the exploitation of our planet’s resources, or climate change.

How are these related to each other?

For me, one main reason is that people experience themselves as separate in their trauma – from other people as well as from nature, of which we are an indissoluble part. And this experience of being separate leads to enormous stress and energy consumption. And it’s the same with the fossil fuel we consume in our society. If I don’t experience myself as connected, sharing with others and only consuming what I really need in a community, but as isolated and disconnected, then I’m simply consuming more resources and not really living sustainably. Not even if I can understand sustainability intellectually or even advocate for it activistically. And what we consume more of is what I call trauma fuel. In addition, people who suffer from traumatic attachment disorder, for example, often can’t regulate themselves or regulate themselves less well. That’s also why we have such an insatiable economic system in which people strive for more and more, even if that is no longer well regulated in the overall system. And when we are caught in such chronic over-activation in our society as well as in our economic system, we burn up the resources of the system at all levels. And everyone is stuck in this higher level of stress. This stops the self-healing mechanisms of our bodies and the entire system in which we all live. At some point, the substance is burned up and the body and society become sick. The same thing happens, I believe, in the biosphere. One of the burning problems we have gotten into in this way is precisely climate change. The only way we can change this development is if we go back to a natural way of living and adapt our use of resources together. But we won’t get this social change off the ground if we don’t look at the traumas that got us into this situation in the first place.

So how can we do that?

The problem is that for evolutionary social change, it is not enough to just change our behaviors and habits, or to be activist so that other people do the same. Because that doesn’t resolve the traumas. On the contrary. The problem is that when I put pressure on traumatizations, I generate resistance. This is exactly what climate activists have to understand first: That they are running against ice walls of frozen traumatizations. And the harder they run against it, the harder they bounce off, because that creates counterforces. Both sides are damaged by this. The activists get frustrated – the others shut down and block all the more. In short, banging against the ice walls only creates more stress in the system and awakens more counterpressure.

„If we don’t learn to look at our own traumas and the traumas of others, we’re not going to get anywhere.“

And climate change is far from the only stress-increasing crisis we face. We cannot currently confront a pandemic like that caused by Covid-19 in most societies. The same is true for refugees making their way to Europe. All of this is hitting tremendous trauma-related stress that is already in the system – triggering the next traumas. This makes everything worse. I have an image for this: snow falling into flowing water becomes water. But when snowflakes fall on an icy river, they start to pile up. When the river flows, the newness is integrated and becomes experience. But if the river is hard and icy, then the new cannot be integrated, but piles up more and more. And this is what we are experiencing everywhere in society right now.

How can we as a society better deal with collective trauma?

To make a lasting difference, in addition to activism, which is great for changing habits and educating, we need to look at where the traumas are that need to be healed. And that healing takes space and time. This is contradictory because we are in a hurry now. But also when problems of our world are pressing: I highly recommend that we first take the time to bring our traumas into consciousness and heal them. Before that, all the solutions will not be enough.

Even if it is hard and the hurdles are high: The key is trauma-informedness and mutual awareness. If I develop an awareness of trauma contexts, I can see where the other person reacts particularly strongly. Because that’s where the trauma is: exactly where something is touched that is perceived as a threat. But there is far too little sensitivity for this. There is often even a lack of awareness of what one’s own traumas are and what triggers them. This lack of awareness and the lack of awareness for the other leads to the fact that the traumas are always continued and reinforced. That’s why we ourselves and the societies we live in can’t get out of it. But once you have this different view of trauma, you start to see it everywhere. In the supermarket at the checkout counter; in your family; in the organization where you work; in the media when politics, economics, and all other social issues are reported. That’s a good place to start.

The first step is to create trauma-sensitive environments to meet in the first place. You can only create a bridge through relationship work. But then we are still a long way from a trauma-healing environment. For that, first of all, we have to reinterpret the concept of trauma: Out of negativity, towards a recognition of the tremendous intelligence and genius of successful trauma in the situation of overload, which is an inner response to highly overwhelming influences in our body and nervous system. For there is something very valuable happening to protect us and keep us intact. The crucial question is how we deal with the consequences in the further course of life and social development. The integration is how I face these issues in my life. To do that, we have to think about trauma differently, talk about it differently, and bring it into consciousness so that we can heal it. That takes time. But what we release through that is the energy that has been frozen by trauma. We can use that. And if we face traumatization collectively, we have a power of social change.

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Thomas Hübl: Healing Collective Trauma. A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. Louiseville (CO): Sounds True Inc. 2020

The Pocket Project explores how collective trauma shapes our lives. Symptoms arise constantly, yet their origin often remains unrecognised and unaddressed. We aim to change this by cultivating trauma-informed conversations and increasing our witnessing capacity. This autumn, the first series of International Labs for the exploration of specific collective fields of trauma is going online.

pocketproject.org/current-projects/international-labs

THOMAS HÜBL

Thomas Hübl is the founder of the Academy of Inner Science and specializes in dream research and trauma work. In addition to teaching courses at Harvard Medical School, he founded the Pocket Project in 2016, in which 23 teams are now active internationally.

Thomas Hübl’s work aims at the development of conscious compassion – the fundamental origin of connectedness between people. Our still young connection with him came about through Kazuma Matoba.